Comments on: Orientation coordinators resign from UTMSU

By: Connor

Connor — Tue, 17 Sep 2013 05:21:00 +0000

All right Grace

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By: Luke

Luke — Wed, 11 Sep 2013 01:03:00 +0000

Considering the attention this article is getting in the comments, I’d like to remind everyone that letters to the editor can be sent to [email protected].

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By: Luke

Luke — Wed, 11 Sep 2013 01:02:00 +0000

Whose favour is it partial in—the OCs or the executives?

This article’s scope is the resignation of the OCs and why, as told by both the OCs and the executives. The people who think it tries to cover everything aren’t the ones who published it.

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By: FOG

FOG — Tue, 10 Sep 2013 23:34:00 +0000

People are catching feelings to the point where theres levels to this shit, over everything post frosh – lets be real we all had a great fucking time, the week itself went unbelievably well when you think about how something would go without OCs and with all the prefrosh drama. We had a bunch of new shit that worked well, old events were solidified, and the froshies were fucking amazing.

There were a few KEY things that got on all of our nerves and its those that are being emphasized rather than the successes. The fuckups were not little fuckups and we should figure out how we will deal with them next year, but just to keep everything in balance all parties involved should have an equal voice and everything needs to be put into perspective.

People this week had a great time, bonded, grew out of their shells, lost their voices, and bust repeatedly due to the fun that they had. But people also messed up, lost control, and screwed up a couple of minor/major things that left a bad taste in their mouths for the whole week.

You can’t just think an article would cover everything from every aspect, how can you tell me that this article is impartial with a straight face ?

If you really wanna figure out what went wrong and why, sit down with everyone involved, hold an open forum and see what needs to be done.

If you don’t want to do that make sure that you’re either a leader or a committee member for next years frosh so you can directly be a part of it and make sure the mistakes aren’t repeated.

- Your Friendly Neighbourhood OG

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By: Olga Tkachenko

Olga Tkachenko — Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:30:00 +0000

I believe the lack is photos is a result of some access issues to some events for Medium staff photographers/videographers. Also, if a source came forward who was interested in displaying their view of the hard work the UTMSU put into it, they would have most certainly been included, but I am not sure whether there was such a source at the time of the article being written, not being the author of this piece. As I mentioned, this is NOT an opinion article, or the opinion of the author, but the opinions of people who came forth and shared theirs. The job of the Medium (see the editorial) is not to advertise events or praise people, but to report events that are newsworthy. The (double) resignation of the OCs is certainly newsworthy, as is the Orientation event itself, of course, which is why both were covered; the Facebook group is also interesting to note, whether it puts a negative light on the event or not. I hope that answers some of your questions.

I completely understand your viewpoint that not enough was mentioned about Orientation in comparison to the OC article, but I think you can also see why that article is so important for students to read. As always, I am sure anybody is welcome to write an opinion piece for the Medium if they wanted to share their opinion.

Oh, and bashing UTMSU is nothing new. I don’t necessarily agree with it, and have previously defended some aspects of their work, but I do agree that the lack of transparency is a concern. I also have no idea how Orientation planning went down, not having been there myself or been on the Planning Committee, so I can’t say whether I think UTMSU did a great job (plus my opinion here is irrelevant); my comments include only information I have some understanding of.

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By: Luke

Luke — Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:29:00 +0000

Hi. EIC here.

Thanks for validating your comment by making some points. Still, there’s some misunderstanding.

The Frosh article was continued on a second page.

We plan to post an album of extra Frosh photos on Facebook. There’s always more we wish we could put in print. That said, at some events UTMSU blocked our access to take photos.

The Argos game is mentioned twice by name. One is by the OCs saying they don’t know why it was cancelled, and the other is by the executives saying they would’ve loved for it to happen but it was impractical. What’s your point?

As for replying to other users, all commenters are entitled to their opinions.

Yours,
Luke

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By: UTM Alumni

UTM Alumni — Tue, 10 Sep 2013 14:18:00 +0000

No events? No one cares about the campus?

Are you sure you go to UTM? lol. Because the UTM I know has a lot of events and people do care about the campus.

PS. Please do visit the Blind Duck pub when there are events hosted by different clubs. You can also visit events and conferences that different faculties and Departments on campus host ! I am sure you will find the “school spirit”

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By: UTM Alumni

UTM Alumni — Tue, 10 Sep 2013 13:38:00 +0000

Thank you for your response !

- Firstly, I am not reading the wrong article. I also read the other article that had LESS THAN A PAGE mentioned about the activities in Frosh, while three and half pages dedicated to this ! Why? And no pictures of the paint party or the Carnival in general? Why again I suppose?

- There was a video-grapher/ photographer from the medium for the paint party and the Parade and all you got is LESS THAN A PAGE ? Now how is that showcasing any success about the Orientation Week.

- I am not trying to discredit this article completely, however, it would have had more credibility if the hard work of the UTMSU was also mentioned in picking up Frosh when the OC’s resigned and not only how the OC’s loved the Argo games and what not!

- Why is that you don’t reply to users that praise the OCs and bash UTMSU?

I hope you take this comment as a form of critique!

Thank you

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By: Ace

Ace — Tue, 10 Sep 2013 12:27:00 +0000

Nobody is better off. The OCs lost a position they cared about greatly that they were incredibly passionate about. I rather doubt that the executive wants another press fiasco, so this isn’t exactly in their best interest either.

What really struck me were the statements regarding the Finances.

If the OCs had a problem with the members of the Executive, why did they not go to the board?

There is an Orientation Finance Committee, and I am wondering, If the OCs had a problem with the executive, why did the OCs not just try and talk to the Board Members on the OFC?

I know several Board of Directors members personally. They are all hardworking, professional, and approachable people. At the very least I am sure talking to them would have allowed them to clear the air on any financial concerns.

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By: former student

former student — Tue, 10 Sep 2013 11:54:00 +0000

I believe you are reading the wrong article. This one is exclusively about the OCs’ resignation from their posts. The Orientation event has its own article, which does in fact mention the paint party. As you can see, there were no opinions expressed by the author in this article, and both sides presented their own views. And there were no allegations made by the author that Orientation was unsuccessful. Please actually read the article before making accusations! Perhaps then your opinion would have more merit.

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